Upon numerous requests, we present to your attention the history of work on the project "MyDreamWoman". You will be able to decide whether Sotnikov Yevhen Viktorovych had grounds to "pour dirt on us".
The order was fulfilled on August 31, 2010. Customers (Sotnikov Eugene and Sotnikova Anastasia) came to us with a developed design:
When we saw this "ready" design, we offered our design at no extra charge, because it doesn't make sense to run a site of our level.
Together with Sotnikov Eugene, a list of additions that needed to be made to the functionality, which has already been discussed.
2.Tours and their orders
3.Admin in Russian and English. language
4.RCC news subscription
5.Order a call to a girl
6.Change chat smilies to smilies provided by the Customer
All of the above was implemented on the site (all screenshots are taken from the site, which was developed for Eugene Sotnikov):
1.Virtual gifts — confirmation
2.Tours and their orders — confirmation
3.Admin in Russian. and English. languages — confirmation
4.RCC subscription and news — confirmation
5.Order a call to a girl — onfirmation
6.Change the smileys of the chat to the smilies provided by the Customer (this was realized by itself, because it is not difficult to change the smilies).
After a while, another wish for functionality came:
We have fulfilled this point. You can see: confirmation.
As you can see, we did not refuse any element previously provided in the additional functionality, and also did not ask the client to pay extra for it (simply put, we did it for free!).
Our designers drew the first version of the design, which we sent to Eugene:
After receiving this model Sotnikov Eugene and Sotnikov Anastasia gave the following comments:
Now the question arises: like a person who says, "Well, stop it, you're good!" about this layout, already on his website writes: "the first layout was not very good, to put it mildly" The next day, Eugene called his mobile phone and made several adjustments to the main page.
It was necessary to make it softer, change the color scheme, enlarge the breasts of the main girl and change all the girls in the service blocks, there were also edits on the banners (exact list, it is impossible to reproduce, because it was a telephone conversation). We promptly performed all edits and soon sent the client a corrected version:
After this option did not work, we developed 3 more (with different girls and colors), as we always try to implement all the wishes of the client.
We present you 3 options of the main page:
Option №3 (1)
Option №3 (2)
Option №3 (3)
After sending the layout options, Eugene said that Option №3 (1) was "straight to the point". After that, he, as always, said that he would "give an answer in the morning" (most likely a collective decision was made). In the morning, Eugene again called the mobile phone of the project's personal manager Irina.
We immediately undertook to change this layout and sent 6 (!) Of its version:
Please, while viewing the above layout, compare what is drawn on this layout and what is now on the site. You will not see a big difference.
After receiving the layout, Eugene Sotnikov gave the following comments (excerpt from the correspondence):
And after, as Eugene said, "wishes" lasted for months...
Approval of the main page, namely BANNERS lasted more than 2 months, because the edits were given in part and in the scatter: I want the girl not to sit on the couch, I do not want the wallpaper on the site, I want it to be "tasty", I need a "poured" banner in site, motley elements, "monkey girls" — change them, etc.
During the acquaintance with his further wishes, Sotnikov Eugene said:
We, in turn, agreed and have already made all the edits unquestionably — the more the client was in no hurry, and the main thing for us - the result, the more time there is for his wishes. Then I needed 2 more layout options, 1 did not fit (you can see it here).
The second — accepted, except for banners (as Eugene said: "they look mean"):
When Sotnikov Eugene received the layout, he approved the main page, except for banners (excerpt from the correspondence):
After approving the main page, we started drawing the interior.
The result of our work did not take long. And in a few days (!!!) we sent layouts of internal pages (you can download the ful mode version here):
When Eugene Sotnikov saw the models, he made the following comments (excerpt from the correspondence):
After we received such comments, the project manager Irina and Eugene had a conversation via Skype. Please note the fact - when our work was sent in the evening, Eugene always did not like it, and when in the morning (as the last layout of the main) — everything was fine.
All edits on the pages were recorded by the manager in the words of Eugene:
And this is all edits on 22 pages, where "everything is bad"! Namely — 25 edits, ie an average of 1 edit per page!
We have made all the adjustments and sent an updated version (you can download the full mode version of the layouts here):
After reading the models, Eugene made the following comments:
The next day, the manager and Eugene had a Skype conversation.
We reworked it again and sent it for approval (you can download the full-mode version of the layouts here):
As a result, I didn't just like banners.
Well, that's when we heard: "everything in general, all super well done." But this was not confirmed by the comments and wishes that we constantly made for free.
We have repeatedly (4!) Made adjustments to the internal pages and sent for approval to the client Eugene Sotnikov (full-mode version of the layouts can be downloaded here):
After reading the models, Eugene made the following comments:
Rules, contacts and the main thing do not approach any more though earlier 3 variants of models all were "well done".
As it turned out, the biggest problem on this site was the BANNER. Therefore, we decided to develop several options for banners:
After receiving these versions of banners by Yevnen, he clearly liked Option №3 (excerpt from the correspondence):
It was edited to make a "Play" button near the camcorder, we made this adjustment, but once again Eugene said it was not appropriate.
After that, we developed several options for banners with this button:
Eugene really liked the idea with a cracker (Option №4), we made a few adjustments and the banner was approved (no banner today, 5 people are waiting for the start of programming and layout, as the banner is not suitable for 3 months!)
But we still have 2 problematic pages: the Rules page and the Contacts page.
According to the "Rules", Eugene gave the same remark: the girl is "monkey".
But Eugene did not like - all the "monkeys".
Client Eugene Sotnikov sent a girl who could be processed and put on the Rules page. After our treatment (!) The following girl came out:
But it's not that the girl after our treatment looks too vulgar for this project. This is not a porn portal, but a dating site, and, in addition, it should be connected in the future to serious payment systems, which are unlikely to accept a site with naked girls.
As a result of several weeks of editing, it was decided to abandon the girl on this page. (Then why fix for weeks?)
Drawing all the models with the statement, making adjustments took 3 months, while the plan was to take 2 weeks. This is calculated in the budget and in the schedule of the studio. After such "clients" we have to postpone terms to normal people who understand that they order and expect from us good result.
September 9 — the first layout of the main page is sent. December 15 — all models are approved.
Of course, the story is not over — it will continue. Briefly about what happened next. Sotnikov brought the manager Irina to hysterics on weekends at 23 o'clock at night, called, was rude (together with the wife Anastasia). Forced our copywriters to write a tailor's text following his example (excerpt from memory: "her skirt is developing in the wind and you can see the legs")
Next —began layout and programming. About it later, but we couldn't take out this person any more, therefore Sotnikov was offered to estimate work on development of models (that is to name any sum in which he estimates work on models, for example, though 500 USD) — everything else we return, give the layouts — and he continues to develop in another studio.
To which Sotnikov replied: "Why do I need these pictures?". After that, I, the director of the studio, decided not to work with this client anymore and to return his money in full. On what I heard the next portion of rudeness in the party. Although what is the problem? That no other studio will agree to work on such terms? If the client made a normal order, did not deceive us on volume of works - take away models, continue development in other studio. But no.
A few days passed. As a project manager, I felt sorry for the time spent on useless work. It's a pity man, although he has a complex character, because he wasted his time (though not less than us). So I stepped over all the inconveniences and rudeness — and offered to finish the project after all — because I thought that the person had understood something during this time.
I had to persuade to continue work, to listen to rudeness, and that I "want to reach the purpose".
Sotnikov agreed to continue work, to finish the project in 1 month, but at the same time to replace the manager Irina with Artem. The manager was changed, work continued.
Two weeks later, when all the pages had been completed and the functionality was fully completed, Sotnikov wrote to me that he did not want to continue working. Surprisingly, we agreed to finish the project.
Then in 1 month we fully returned $ 1,200 and UAH 19,000 ($ 2,400). Total $ 3,500.
The night before returning, Sotnikov called me on the phone and repeated the same phrase 15 times: "if you want, I'll show you what your site will look like." This is about a site through which false information about our studio is spread. It turned out that he meant that he would show what his site would look like after we returned the money — it was empty.
They returned the money - and, as expected - the site with lies about us remained :) This is understandable, because we already knew who we were dealing with. Our clients are searched by portfolio and told what a "bad" studio we are to this day.
By the way, this is not Sotnikov's first case of "free punishment" — see the screenshot.
Apparently, the "truth" of Sotnikov Eugene is only in his favor. Here are some more screenshots of Eugene's manner of communication:
And here he frightens us with courts and prosecutor's offices that advises to do to all clients whom he calls. It is a pity that he does not even understand that the prosecutor's office has nothing to do with it, but to call "fraud" commercial relations, where money is shown to the tax, where 5 people who still work in the company when ready the product is funny after all. It is also a pity that in his understanding the return of money was only because he was "cool" and shouted loudly. In fact, it's just because we don't need such dirty money. It is better to sell this project to another client or keep it for yourself.
There was still a lot of dirt in all this. So much so that you can write a book :) But we will not spread about it. Dirt was on the way back, because Sotnikov thought that we were cheating on him (judging by himself), that the money was not sent, that I "ran to borrow friends" to send him this $ 3,500 ... In any case, if you do not have enough information that confirms that we are responsible and decent developers, visit this page in a few days, here will be the history of writing texts and layout of the project MyDreamWoman.
There was still a lot of dirt in all this. So much so that you can write a book :) But we will not spread about it. Dirt was on the way back, because Sotnikov thought that we were cheating on him (judging by himself), that the money was not sent, that I "ran to borrow friends" to send him this $ 3,500...
In any case, if you do not have enough information that confirms that we are responsible and decent developers, visit this page in a few days, here will be the history of writing texts and layout of the project MyDreamWoman.
By the way, the project is for sale — https://glyanec.net/ starting price — $ 9000
These are our clients. They worked for six months — listened to rudeness, and even returned the money. It's like going to the movies, then at the exit saying "I didn't like the movie — give me the money."
Next (in the continuation of the article) we will replace the name of Sotnikov Eugene with the nickname "Punisher of freebies" :) There we will tell how for six months Sotnikov boasted of virtual yachts, cottages and cars, as well as "godfather Sbushnik who listens on the line."
I can't help but notice a funny story. Eugene "tested" his site in the old version of the Opera browser, and was outraged that his site is buggy! We looked in the same version of the site of the Opera browser, facebook.com and vkontakte.ru — and they all fall apart too. Super! Here is our level — we are required to do more than from facebook.com!
d irector of web design studio "Glyanec.NET"